Comments on: Christmas without Christ – Why?

By: snider029

snider029 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:35:06 +0000

Christmas I think you mean Yule a Pagan Holiday for the winter Solstice originally. Btw did you know another name for Paganism is Heathenism. Yup Cristians celebrating Christmas are heathens. Now GTFO my holiday and get your own.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:15:17 +0000

hehe… Christmas isn't even a holiday for Christians… It's a holiday for pagans; but anyway, Christians took the day aboard and made it a public holiday… so that's fine with me.

By: LeaT

LeaT — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:38:20 +0000

Just start referring to them as christians in lower case and it will be all fine and dandy! In fact, in Sweden we don't capitalize any religious nouns, it's all lower case, so kristen (Christian), kristendomen (Christianity), islam (Islam), muslim (Muslim) and hedning (Pagan). I don't refer to god in upper case either, and there are people who actually are put off by this it seems. I do find it silly that in Sweden we refer the Christian god with a capital G, but the other gods not. I think the context very well states which gods we are referring to either way, and lower and upper case letters don't exist in verbal language.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:58:11 +0000

"Honestly anyone that says we need to put the "Christ" back into Christmas doesn't understand the history of the celebration, and doesn't recognize that it is, was, and always will be a pagan holiday."

I am with you but it pains me to read the word "pagan". This is how the Christians describe us – in lowercase right there with the "animals". Request you to use "Pagans" instead. A very happy Winter Solstice to you.

By: Anath

Anath — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:04:14 +0000

I agree entirely!

I also think if it were nothing but the celebration of the incarnation of Jesus there would be no problem, just as there's really no problem with any non-Christan wanting to celebrate Ash Wednesday.

By: terrasears

terrasears — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:51:40 +0000

Where is "Christ" really at in Christmas anyway? It is highly unlikely that it is the time of year of the birth of Jesus, Santa has nothing to do with Jesus, Yule has nothing to do with it, a "Christmas tree" is a tradition that also has nothing to do with Jesus… So where exactly would he fit into Christmas?

Christmas to this atheist is simple; it a called Christmas because it is easier than terming it something else, it is a time that my family gives gifts to each other in to show we care, and it is a time where annoying each other with extra time spent together as we are all home for an extended period of time.

Honestly anyone that says we need to put the "Christ" back into Christmas doesn't understand the history of the celebration, and doesn't recognize that it is, was, and always will be a pagan holiday. If they chose to set that day to recognize Jesus, good for them, but don’t tell me that it is the “right” way. After all it wasn’t even their holiday to begin with, and they “stole” the traditions of others…

*Sigh at the Christian nation…

By: Waldheri

Waldheri — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 08:41:35 +0000

Indeed, I often think that we should put "Christ" back in "Christians" before we talk about anything else. Like you said: Christmas has become a holiday for all; and I don't care what you call it. Is it a late celebration of the winter solstice, or Sol Invictus, or Saturnalia, or or Yuletide, or plain simple "family time". The Atheist Experience talked a lot about the "Reason for the Season" (#636) and Matt Dillahunty summarized that the fun parts of Christmas are either pagan or secular; if it was only a celebration of the incarnation of Jesus it would be as lame as Ash Wednesday. I'm fine with people doing their best to remind people of the Christian incarnation of this holiday, but please let everyone celebrate it in the way they see fit.