The Antichristian Phenomenon

I have discussed the nature of God and his desires for quite some time with Christians. I have always searched for examples to help convey my points. I have recently worked on a logical exercise that deals with concepts of infinity; however, I don’t believe that paper is as complete as it could be. As a direct result I think I have developed an example that really drives the point home about God’s notions of “justice” and “love”.

I should forewarn the reader that I am a mathematics major and as such, I have tried to apply a sort of governing formula for my discussion here. I have tried to outline it and provide examples that are fitting to the problem at hand.

Here is how I am going to approach the Bible for this particular exercise I wish to discuss. I look at the ultimate goal of the Bible to be an algorithm that essentially outlines God’s plan. It’s a sort of rulebook, if you will, that outlines what God’s program is going to do and what believers can expect. We see the “expected” outcomes in the forms of “prophecy”. I am also taking something for granted, the fact that Christians frequently say how God’s word is “truth” or “absolute truth”. This axiom, to me, means that God never breaks his word (i.e. he never lies)… according to the Bible at least. Thus I will assume that God’s algorithms for “governing” his creation are not going to be broken as well. Christians can say “God can do whatever he wants” in response to some of my points. However, that means that God would break his word as laid down by the Bible (i.e. he really lied to us).

I can now get into the purpose of the paper. The most major criteria governing who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell can be summed up with the two following rules (as quoted by many Christians to me).

#1) Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, body and soul.
#2) Love your neighboor as yourself.

I wouldn’t say these are actually unique to the Christian faith, as I have heard similar statements made by the Jews. There is even an allegory I remember reading about an old Rabbi who was challenged once about Judaism’s message. Basically the story went that the challenger said he would convert to Judaism if the Rabbi could teach him all the knowledge of the Torah while standing on one leg. The Rabbi rose to the challenge and said “Love God, and love your neighbor as yourself.” As you can see, this little saying isn’t really anything new. Anyway, this is one of the major things Christians use to preach the Gospel and win people over to their way of thinking. I really want to focus in on these two sayings and apply it to some very extreme cases that are real world examples.

The first person I want to discuss and introduce is Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi. Gandhi is considered, historically, as one of the worlds most influential people for civil rights. For those needing the history refresher he was the leader of a non-violent civil disobedience movement against the British occupation of India. He essentially wanted to free his people from British rule through non-violent means. His story has been heralded the world over as one of the greatest in human history. He is synonymous with many symbols of peace and he has influenced many movements of civil rights around the globe. The world is, frankly, a better place for his existence. Not only did he help his own people, but he has influenced others to stand up against oppression and demand their freedom as well.

There is one huge flaw with Gandhi though. He followed Hinduism. Now this is a major problem. Being occupied by the British means he would have had exposure to Christian ideology and religious teachings. This means exposure to Jesus’ teachings. While Gandhi clearly followed criteria #2, to the level that he didn’t even want to harm his enemies, he did not follow criteria #1. That’s right, he did not think Jesus was God, nor were any of his motivations for peace influenced by Jesus. This means that Gandhi has been sent to Hell. Yes, I am fully aware that I did not see God physically send Gandhi to Hell, but if God did not, then God is a liar. Not only that, the #2 requirement doesn’t appear to be warranted for the #2 slot in the hierarchy of rules governing our world. Requirement #1 seems to be a far more defining factor. Thus Gandhi is in Hell due to a technicality. I wouldn’t say this really shows the just nature of God, but it could be argued that Gandhi knowingly rejected God and thus God didn’t want to force Gandhi into wanting his help, that invalidates free will. I understand this factor, but it doesn’t technically make it “just”, though it makes sense within the system. But surely this must be an isolated incident?

Let me introduce you to the second person I want to discuss, his name is Adolf Hitler. Hitler, by many, is believed to be embodiment of evil. Truly no redemption could ever be awaiting this man. Or could it?

Let me go on a quick tangent. I have heard Hitler’s name referenced as an Atheist as an example of how atheism is a real threat. I hate to break it to people out there, but Hitler was a Christian. Below you will find some quotes, the most important being from “Mein Kampf” which was written in his own words discussing Christianity.

“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.” (Mein Kampf, pgs. 562-563)

“We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls. … We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.” (Hitler, speech in Passau, 27 October 1928)

“Anyone who thinks he can arrive at a religious reformation by the detour of a political organization only shows that he has no glimmer of knowledge of the development of religious ideas or dogmas and their ecclesiastical consequences. Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.” (Mein Kampf, pg 114)

On discussing unworthy priests:
“…but for one such unworthy priest there are a thousand and more honorable ones, shepherds most loyally devoted to their mission, who, in our present false and decadent period, stand out of the general morass like little islands.” (Mein Kampf, pg 115)

As you can see the man was Christian. If you really need further proof go pick up a copy of the book, go to the index, and look up “Catholic Church”. There you will find all the reading you need on the matter. Now at this point you can see I’ve outlined that Hitler followed criteria #1. At this point you are probably thinking I’m crazy because only criteria #2 remains and how could Hitler fit that criterion? Let me explain. Amidst all that genocide and ethnic cleansing was a man who was trying to save his people. His “neighbors” if you will. Not only that, he took it a step further, he was actually trying to save the entire world from the Jewish threat. It doesn’t matter if none of it was true, the fact is, Hitler was doing it from a caring place in his heart. Sure he was angry about it, but that’s why he stood up to save the people! If you read “Mein Kampf”, as I have, you will see this plainly. His ideas weren’t coming strictly from a place of hatred, but from a place of love for his people.

Now, as a Christian, he would repent his sins, as that is part of the process. You ask for forgiveness, no self respecting Christian would say this wasn’t important. Hitler being well educated and intelligent would do this. So, I have to assume that he would ask for forgiveness of his sins and thus God adhering to his rulebook would absolve Hitler of sins. What does this mean? It means Hitler is in Heaven.

Now I thought I was going to get myself caught in a technicality for God meting out his justice. It is generally accepted that Hitler committed suicide, and most Christians seem to regard this as a major sin. I suppose it’s because they tie it in with “thou shalt not kill” and there are numerous passages discussing the sanctity of life. So Anath went and did some research for me. We couldn’t really find any passages specifically stating that if you commit suicide you go to hell. In fact we found that Samson technically committed suicide and God basically helped. Saul also committed suicide. Judas committed suicide as well. Judas, to me, seems to be the most tragic of cases. Judas was rather “pre-destined” as it is alluded to in the text that he was meant to do what he did. So it seems rather unfair that he didn’t seem to technically have a choice in this. Though, if I remember correctly, he supposedly repented (someone can correct me if I am wrong about this). Either way, I couldn’t find any specific statements that said you go to Hell immediately if you commit suicide. Rather, I find this sort of thing mentioned in Dante’s “Inferno”. Maybe the notion came from there?

In conclusion, you can plainly see the justice system as designed by God. Apparently this is supposed to be perfect. But under God’s rule Gandhi is in Hell and Hitler is in Heaven. Maybe my moral compass is broken because I have strong atheistic leanings, but internally I have a problem with this system. If it allows this kind of a thing to happen I would say the system is broken.

Ultimately what does this come down to? It appears to me that criteria #2 is actually rather negligible. It’s more of a “good message” concept rather than actually necessary. To me, it seems this is somewhat overridden by the forgiveness clause that Christianity also follows. Maybe #2 is there so that you can justify good works in light of God, so you can say “I do good things because I love God” or “God wants me to do them”. But that doesn’t change the fact that you can be a serial killer, a mass murderer, etc and ask for forgiveness of your sins and get to Heaven. I know that’s a major perk for winning over people, especially with the “no one can ever be perfect” message. This is akin to me wearing a blue shirt then having someone walk up to me and informing me that I am, in fact, wearing a blue shirt. For some reason a lot of people need to be told its okay not to be perfect, rather than coming to terms with that on their own. Maybe God really does sort these people out better, but based on what I read in his “word”, I don’t get that impression.

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I knew my first post would be considered fairly aggressive by some, so I’ve decided to explain in further detail what I mean when I say to combat religion. Unlike religion I have no problem spelling out what I mean. I’m not going to use vague metaphors like the Bible that engenders people to come up with some bizarre notion that you need to use the Bible to interpret the Bible. If you need to “interpret” something that’s stated clearly then the original statement wasn’t made very well at all.

Okay, when I say we need to combat religion, defend ourselves, etc. I don’t mean we necessarily have to physically combat them. I am not Gandhi and I don’t believe in pacifism, nor do I believe in turning the other cheek. What I do believe is needed is a clearly defined retaliation protocol. Well what does that mean? Basically it means we’re not the first to strike. Nor should we have to be. As soon as a Christian visits physical violence upon any member of us they are simply showing their abhorrent hypocrisy in full. If they truly believe they are working for “peace” via war, or being a loving being as they say their God is, they are hypocrites. They have just committed an act of violence to support their idea of love, last time I checked that doesn’t mesh well.

But like other pacifistic approaches does that mean we don’t have a right to defend ourselves? Of course not. I fully believe everyone has the right to defend their person and does not need to kneel in supplication to another (well, unless you really want to). Most people like power and like standing above others, but that doesn’t give you a right to force anyone. So I say we should be able to follow the tenets of physics that say “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” So if someone punches you in the face, it does not give you the right to kill them immediately, I say it does give you a right to put them out of commission until they stop hitting you though. Why am I saying all this? Because I fear for my personal well being from extremist religious sects or persons. I don’t think anyone should have to be afraid because of something they believe, especially when it’s not visiting violence upon other people. I know some people say that violence doesn’t solve anything, and they’re right. Fighting doesn’t make a problem go away, but the reality of the situation is that some people will resort to violence. So what is the best course of action for the attacked?

I think if the righteous choose to enact violence it should be them who does it. We should stand above them and combat them on an intellectual level. I personally see no need for violence; I think it is the action of a petty and base person that resorts to such as a response to a comment regardless of how ignorant or intellectual. I think the greatest weapon our group has is our intellect. We should harness that power and focus it more than anything else. Our knowledge is both our sword and our shield and that’s what separates one side from the other, as far as I can tell. While most religious people have knowledge of a single text (usually they don’t even have this), we will pull from myriad sources.

Yes, this is a sort of elitism, but only because there is a tragic divide in understanding. It is not elitism in the pure sense because we are not hording our knowledge just for ourselves, we want to share it! We want all of humanity to be informed on a great number of topics, not just one. Information and ideas are the greatest threat in any struggle. Communication between groups is of the utmost importance and the reason I fear that violence is a likely response is because they cannot see things from our perspective. Sure, some of the religious believers certainly can, but there is a great deal out there who cannot. These are the people all should fear. This leads to war and war is not always a beneficial outcome. I welcome any comments on this concept, I know it may seem somewhat harsh, but I think it is a realistic perspective on the situation.

This is my first article for this website.  Some others here may even disagree with my commentary, but I think my points on the subject are quite valid.  I am probably one of the most militant here in terms of being Anti-Christian.  I view their whole ideology as a threat to my well-being, and the well-being of my fellow man.  With that in mind, I see no fault in following things on the natural course to defend my person.  With that in my worldview I will use strong terms, because strength and wisdom need to overcome lies and ignorance.

With that being said, I was listening to my local Christian radio station when I realized that this religion truly is a threat to the global well being of mankind.  Its whole basis of thought is “do as we say or you will die.”  They may not physically kill you right then and there, but they expect it to happen someday and they take solace in this fact.  Yet, when I use harsh concepts such as these, I am usually berated for it.  I am unfair.  I am intolerant, or I am harsh.  The world needs to wake up.  It needs to see what this really is and I challenge most Christians to figure out what it is they are following and what it is they are actually saying to the world.

I submit the point that if you claim to be a Christian you have to believe that Jesus is the only way to reach salvation.  If you don’t believe that absolutist tenet then you are not a Christian.  End of debate, get over the fact that you’re not Christian right now and join our ranks for you will, just as quickly, be smitten as the rest of us, so its fight or flight for you… decide already!  I make this comment based on a recent debate someone mentioned to me that “not all Christians believe that there’s only one way”, well if they don’t then they’re not Christian.  Jesus said “the only way to the father is through me” (paraphrased).  Furthermore the New Testament echoes the concept that if you don’t follow Jesus then you will be sent to Hell to experience eternal death away from God.  Do you not see this is a religion inherent with fear tactics?  When faced with these two options, most people can’t let go of life, so they bow their head and obey.  Maybe it’s time for us to move on, accept the concept of death and stop hanging on to life as a slave.  Maybe death is the better in that case, after all, is it not freedom?

For most tyrannical rulers this would be enough, to have the populations submit to them and acknowledge them as supreme rule.  This is not enough for Christianity, in all it’s vile ideas; they also tell you that you are living in eternal sin.  You are a failure!  Nothing you ever do will ever be good enough.  You are constantly in need of Jesus.  Spare me your scare tactics, I will relish my “sins” in your eyes and realize that I have not sinned in the real world, only in a fantasy world ruled by an incoherent dictator named Jesus.  It is a phenomenal psychological trick to play upon the uneducated, why do you think Christianity is targeted towards the lowly and the mob.  The mob are the people, they have the numbers.  It’s a genius move in terms of conquering, conquer the people and they will revolt the current rule.  Well, now those of us who know the truth of this religion are the underdogs and we should not seek superiority of all mankind, but the leveling equality of mankind.  This is not a call to communism; it is a call to knowledge and understanding.  There are simply basic truths and concepts the mob should be made aware of and as long as that idiotic book, The Bible, stands in the way, knowledge will constantly suffer.  Ignorance will rule our world and the current corporate monarchy wants it that way.  The blind truly need to be shown the light and wisdom given a chance, lies have ruled us for far too long and I believe as a race we can truly overcome and advance our species.

For all the disgust your god visits upon me, I visit it back upon him and his followers ten fold.  I see no reason why we should seek an accord anymore.  This is a global call to action to shun this unwarranted religion.  I herald a day when their revelations will be put into action, so they can see their “god”, their minor deity will never come.  Only wisdom is power, and you, my reader, are the only one who can control that.  God will give you nothing if you don’t take it for yourself.  At which point you will truly question what has “god” really done for you, nothing that you haven’t managed on your own.  All that will happen are you will wake up to the ignorant that surround you because they simply do not know.  Soon it will be time for us to stop watching and for us to start doing.  Already Christians gather in great masses, it would be wise for us to do the same one day and show the world the dissent that has been brewing against its religions.