The Antichristian Phenomenon

Like many others, the ACP has recently joined scoutle in order to test it’s promise. At the moment the Atheosphere is embracing the service which is cool. The Atheists Network from 1 person jumped to 20

Recently I’ve been checking the Antichristian Scout and I noticed that scoutle has ranked us as deserved.

Muahahahahaaaa!

The only thing missing is to somehow lock us at this number >:D

Silliness aside, I’m quite glad at how this thing is progressing. This kind of automation will certainly allow uis to discover the sites that are interedting to each other without even trying. I’ve already discovered at least 5 blogs that I’ve never even seen.

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I know everyone embeds xkcd all the time but I just couldn’t resist doing it this time

Stephen Law has thoroughly pwned the little ignorant theist who was certain he’d proven that god exists. Only he was doing it using circular logic and unargued premises.

I was a bit surprised that this site even existed anymore, as anyone with even a passing familiarity of philosophy or logical arguments can punch holes through the kind of logic employed there. Indeed, the Antichristians took much pleasure in skewering the silly arguments presented therein more than one year ago when it fell to our attention.

Unfortunately back then, Sye (AKA Canuckfish) did not stick around to argue his point, although we’d have certainly been less challenging than a professional philosopher like Stephen.

Nevertheless, reading the discussion was…cute. Like watching a 12-year-old trying to play chess against Kasparov. You can’t help but cringe at the bad moves and laugh when the former insists that “moving the rook diagonally is correct”.

Anyway, head over. Have a laugh. Nothing else is going to change anyway since the theist in question seems incapable of comprehension, no matter how excplicitly he’s been proven incorrect.

Perhaps later on Stephen might wish to take on the Crossexamined blokes who seem to employ similar arguments (Logic cannot exist without God). They’re still pathetic in argumentation but there’s more, lets say, “fish to shoot in the barrel”

It is done, your holy saviour is defeated once more, and even the ultimate might of your omnipresent and omnibenevolent imaginary sky daddy was not enough to stop this truly evil deed.

Where is he Christian?! I ain’t seeing jack shit.

But we all know that nothing is going to happen and you know it as well. It is why you think you need to act and show your outrage. Your god cannot defend himself because he does not exist, so by this act going unpunished the seed of doubt it further planted within you.

I’ve heard about the new kid on the block mentioned a few times before but I didn’t get a chance to read some of the material until Blue Linchpin shared some in Google Reader. Honestly, it was love at first sight. There is some serious Islam pwnage going on there.

If you thought we were bad, wait ’till you get some of this:

[...]Instead the Jews just stand around whining, which is basically all they do in the Quran when they’re not plotting and scheming against Mohammed.  They tell Moses to tell God to get rid of the other people living in the Holy City at the time.  You’d think Moses would just say, “Aw screw you guys.  I’m sick of being your in-between guy.  I’m going to the city myself, and you bitches can find your own place to live.”  I mean, holy hell, isn’t he, like, 500 years old at this time?  Time to grow a fucking pair, Moses.

Seriously, check that shit out

A recent comment, got me thinking: What if the supposed Jesus had made an addition to the 10 Commandments? Could there have been one that would fix the Christian teachings and prevent the “interpetation abuse” that followed? I mean, if this son-of-god came down and he saw how the world ended even after his self/daddy gave these ten absolute guidelines, why didn’t he make an absolute statement instead of using vague parables or insane actions.

In my opinion, if he had said something helpful like “Criticise everything before you accept it, including what I say.” it would have made a world of difference.

But of course, I guess that if had said something like that, his religion would have never managed to muster the necessary memetic advantage in order to become the majority religion it is today. Either the Romans would not have embraced it (who wants the slaves to start criticizing), or the clergy would have long ago scrubbed it from their records.

Anyway, my own possible choices for it would be:

• “Thou shalt not blindly follow orders.”
• “Thou shalt not believe without evidence.”
• “Thou shalt not treat people differently regardless of their skin or gender.”
• “Thou shalt make thyself as wise about the world as possible and you shall spread knowledge to others.”

What do you think the 11th Commandment should be?

Recently, a member of the ACP audience has been tenaciously debating with some of the authors, including myself on our most recent author’s introductory post. During this, quite intense, debate, he has gone on to claim all sorts of stuff. From quoting bible passages, to classic fallacies, to finally claiming that the bible is confirmed by Alien Abductions and…Equidistant letter sequence.

Now, everyone knows that extraordinary claims ¹ require extraordinary evidence. But what most do not understand is that the place to present this evidence is not in a random Internet Blog or message board, especially if that place if skeptical of your claims.

Face it, even if you think that your brilliant theory on Equidistant letter sequences will abso-fucking-lutely prove the biblical inerrancy beyond the shadow of a doubt, and even if you’ve worded it in a way that you cannot see any obvious holes, you cannot expect random people on the internet to sit and read a subject that they’re pretty certain is wrong. This is because of two simple reasons.

• Our time is precious and sludging through bible passages or shady pictures is, frankly, a waste of our time.
• Even if we do read through your theory and do find a few holes to poke, it’s certain to escalate into a debate and it is quite possible that even then our opponent will claim a false victory.

For these reasons, it is quite improbable that you will convince a skeptic to take up your challenge to read some random sources online. Even though it can happen that one will take you up the challenge and then post his critique of the source (which will lead to point 2 above anyway).

However this is the wrong way to go about it. If come to discuss an article in a site, you should discuss the article and any errors or inconsistencies your find. If you start posting book links or quoting bible passages to us, we’ll just roll our eyes and ignore you.

If you do have some insightful evidence that you think no one in the last 2000 years has found before you, well, now is your chance to become famous. You see, even though we are skeptics, we are not skeptical of the scientific method or the scientific consensus. You know why? Becuase it has proven it works.

Thus, If you have done some kind of amazing research that really does prove that Aliens are Angels and whatnot, and you’re not just talking out of your arse, then take your research to a peer reviewed journal and see if it’s published. Then, people who are really knowledgeable on your subject (instead of random internet people) will review it and, if you are indeed correct, publish it. You will be instantly changing the world paradigm for not just a small internet message board, but everyone who is a skeptic.

If you’re looking for results, then there is no better place to go. And better yet, you have the knowledge that this can happen even if your research is controversial. I mean, they did accept Quantum Mechanics even though names like Einstein were opposing it.

It is, of course, quite probable that you won’t do this because you know you’re just wishful thinking. It is not surprising that the “New Age” movement has been left outside peer review and they only seem to work through anecdotal evidence. All these grandiose names of UFOlogist or Theologians seem capable of only preaching to the choir and cry persecution because their bad-research papers are not published.

If you are like these people, then please do not be surprised that we will not waste our time and energy to read any random book you have in mind. We know that humans are fallible and one can be convinced on something blatantly false just because of personal beliefs & experiences, we see it happening all the time with the Christians after all. And this is why on subject we do not know about, you will not find us in the middle of the road, so to speak, we will be sided with the scientific consensus by default.

If you wish to change our minds, try and change that.

I know its a bit lame for an underdog like us to be nominated for Blogger’s Choice Award on “Best Religion Blog” but I thought I’d just go ahead and nominate the ACP.

So if you have nothing better to do for 5 minutes or so, go and push us up the ranks and, if you want, promote some other blogs about…religion

• Debunking Christianity
• Daylight Atheism
• About Agnosticism/Atheism

You can vote more than once and you can also nominate any other blog you see fit.

Last year all the Top Religion Blogs where praising Christianity. I think it’s time to reverse the roles a little >:)

After a bit of work and discussion I’ve setup the author pages to act as a true profile page. Now each member of the ACP who has written at least one post, will have the info he has provided in his profile, displayed at his author page.

Also, every author page allows comments so if you have anything to say to an author but do not want to derail the comment field of one of his posts, this is the place to go

I’ve also perked up our registration page to reign in spam registration which, even though they do not do harm, are annoying nevertheless.

So if you are looking for an alternative place to display your info (and act as a cool homepage as well), or if you want a place to write but don’t want to set up yet another random blog, now is the time to embrace enlightenment.

The above title is a classic saying back in my country or origin, Greece, and it is meant to show that you can find all the weird and insane people all around you. I chose it because I happened to stumble upon this article from the “Metropolitan of Kalavrita and Aegialia” - Ambrosios (Hat tip: Don’t Kiss the Frog). If you don’t speak Greek, don’t bother following the link, but there’s no reason to do so anyway, as I’m here to comment on it for your sake (and sanity)

First you should know that Greece still does not have a clear separation of church and state. The state and the prime minister are pretty much prostrating themselves at the feet of the clergy at every chance they get and the church has quite a bit of political muscle. Furthermore, since all Greeks are baptised at early childhood as Orthodox, the church gets to claim that 99% of Greek population is religious and wants them in power. Lastly the clergy is paid by the Government and oh, did I mention that the church is fucking rich?

So, enough background, on to the story. This bishop then, has gone on a rant because a same-sex couple has gotten married and you know, the goddamn civilization is going down around our ears! Yeah…

His post begins by announcing that a same-sex partnership (he refuses to call them “couple” because that’s somehow reserved only for opposite sexes) was insidiously legalized by marriage, by the mayor of the island Tilos, who then proceeded to absolutely ignore the announcements of the Greek high prosecutor. How dare he! Of course, the law is on the Mayor’s side on this which has the church and the far-right crypto-fascists foaming at the mouth.

The Metropolitan Ambrosios then informs us that human rights are always claimed by the unlawful and then proceeds to complain, get this, that his own human rights are being assaulted because same-sex marriage annoys him! Since when is it a basic human right to not be annoyed? Oh right, ever since the Muslims made it a religious pastime, but I digress…

He also, predictably, claims that the children need to be protected (Will no one think of the damn children?) from this unnatural lifestyle and cohabitation. As if children are going to suddenly and spontaneously turn homosexual, once they realise gay people have made a legal bonding. “Oh look mommy! These two people are holding hands and a marriage ring and I like being assfucked”. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

And then, then, he claims that same sex marriage will inevitably lead to bestiality and marriage between man and dog. Because, you know, two consenting adults are quite similar to an animal with IQ of 20 which cannot give consent to anything.

So what does our dear bishop make from all this. Well, Greece is becoming massively insane of course. He explains that this kind of unnatural behaviour always existed in society but has always been condemnable (I guess he never heard of the ancient Greeks then) and that now that it’s been “blessed by the state”, all hell will break loose. Why? Because it’s unnatural of course. Why is it unnatural? Apostle fucking Paul. The same Apostle Paul who declared women only fit to be sexual objects to men, which leads us to believe that Ambrosios must be considering women (and especially feminist women) to be unnatural as well.

And then, after a quote from Paul, the posts ends…but the fun only just began! Orthodox people started commenting and sharing their bigoted condemnation. They agreed on the unnaturalness of it all, how the world must surely be ending, how this is all the result of the left and so on and so forth. It’s all great fun if you can read it, as you can get a glimpse into the weird and twisted mentality of the average god-fearing neo-Greek for whom same sex marriage is as equal, if not more important, than horrible human rights violations, Government scandals left and right, and half the remaining forests of the country being burned to a crisp.

But family comes first!

In all of this absurdity, what gets me, what really really gets me, is the lame and absolutely sickening kiss-your-feet respect, all of those god-fearing Greeks are displaying when they start commenting. Almost every single one of them starts by saying something like “Please grant me your blessing, oh wise old one.“, as if by wasting all your life memorizing the New Testament somehow makes you wise. As if by playing the church political games (and believe me, it’s a dog-eat-dog world) to get to a high position somehow makes you holy.

It’s all enough to make you lose faith in humanity.

At least now you know that U.S. Americans are not the only westen country ones with the religious nutters in power.