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By: db0

db0 — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:00:32 +0000

but that it displays the same kind of pop history put forth by the american media, were they excuse Stalin and his regime

Are you for real? Not only do the american media do not display any excuse for Stalin but also damn straight he was a lesser evil.

And the greek resistance is truly a joke.

I think I'll side with Churchill when he said: "Hence we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks"

Its religious points that it discusses, like the rest of this blog, upon which I came by accident, don't really interest me in the sleightest.

Then fuck off.

By: Mihai

Mihai — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:52:51 +0000

I am sorry I didn't express myself very clear. I didn't want to say that an american necessarely wrote this article, but that it displays the same kind of pop history put forth by the american media, were they excuse Stalin and his regime, much like the British do, to maintain their image and pretend they chose the lesser evil in World War 2.
And the greek resistance is truly a joke. The germans had only one division stationed in Greece after their campaign, so , of course, there was trouble with the resistance. A much better organized resistence was put up by serbian partizans. Other than that, Greece didn't exist in World War 2. To speak of them like they were some kind of main combatants is just laughable to say the least.

Anyway, what I wanted to say in the first place is that this article is really uninformed and ignorant from a political and historical point of view. Its religious points that it discusses, like the rest of this blog, upon which I came by accident, don't really interest me in the sleightest.

By: db0

db0 — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:46:48 +0000

The only one who is Displaying ignorance in this case is you, not only for assuming that it's an American that wrote this article but by putting down all the Greek resistance. Fuck of troll, I have no time for you.

By: Mihai

Mihai — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:31:31 +0000

This post not only shows a total lack of knowledge of history, but also a classical degree of american ignorance.
Please, before saying something like "but he still did everything he did for the nation and not for personal power (he was as high as he could be what the heck). I believe my point still stands." when referring to Stalin, do open-up a history book, or perhaps speak to someone who lived in eastern Europe during the communist era. My country had 50 years of communism to cope with- 50 years of opression, starvation and indoctrination under a regime that wanted to destroy any sense of Identity and Pride.

As for the greek communist cunt (there are loads of them in that country):
"And the truth is that Greeks and Soviets alone could have won the war". GREEKS ??? Are you stupid or just plain ignorant ?
How good did the greeks do in direct confruntation with the Wehrmacht ? Oh, you got your whole army surrounded and defeated in a matter of days- while you had some British assistance, I might add.

Please, kids, before you try to look like a bunch of "philosophers" that analyze other people's beliefs, just look at yourselves first and ask yourselves if you really have any knowledge at all to boast with. A few wikipedia articles and atheistic teenage rebellion does not make one an intellectual, you know.
And no, I'm no christian, if that's the first thing you were going to acuse me of..I am actually strongly opposed to monotheism, but I find these kind of so called "atheistic" sites to promote as much ignorance as monotheistic ones…

By: Strappado

Strappado — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:50:57 +0000

Communism is actually more Christian than Atheist, because Communism has a much longer history than Marx & Lenin etc. And it was created without a single Atheist around.
It starts off with Thomas Münzer, who was a priest during the reformation. While Luther opposed the Pope(resisted is more correct), Münzer (who was actually the one responsible for stopping to have Latin services) went a bit further. He helped organizing peasants and rioted, and made a commune were they shared things and he expressly referred to the Bible in doing so. In 1975 he ended up on the East German 5 Mark note.
After him, the Anabaptists with the maniac John of Leyden were important. Thomas More’s “Utopia”. He is also known as St. Thomas More among catholics. There are lots of Christians all the way to Marx’ era, the last one being Wilhelm Weitling who was his contemporary. In short, Marx never invented Communism, but his variety was Atheist and “scientific”. And he appears to have been the most “successful”.
I’ve written a post on this, although I’ll try to make a new one that is more systematic.
http://dailyatheist.blogspot.com/2008/03/seed-of-communism-was-christian-seed.html

Here’s the text from a book called The Anarchists which explains a lot of the background.
http://www.ditext.com/joll/1.html

Ironically, you’ll find lots of religious references in the entry on Communism in the Catholic Encyclopedia. It was written in 1910, so they didn’t have this urge to blame it on Atheism yet. Though nothing on Münzer, it’s a fairly thorough entry.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04179a.htm

By: Db0

Db0 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:34:08 +0000

To clarify, DeepThought has 4 kids in a silly argument he had with dbO where he accused him for being a indoctrinated Christian and does not teach them anything else than for example, the Creation Myth about Adam and Eve.

Actually what I did say was that I doubted homeschooling would teach kids in depth on all kinds of science and I still believe that. No matter how smart the parent is he will certainly not be an expert on anything from mathematics, to chemistry, to history, to linguistics, to politics. Not to mention the teaching of evolution as a lie due to religious beliefs. In effect, I consider homeschooling as a form of child abuse. Same as with leaving your child illiterate. Anyway, I’m rambling off again…

Poor dbO, he should learn when to leave a discussion early before it is getting totally out of hand

I need to train myself to recognise hopeless cases

By: LeaT

LeaT — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:24:22 +0000

Well, those are of course my personal opinions and those can be a subject of matter forever as you can never seriously agree on what is mature or not since you only have yourself as a personal self reference to compare to what behavior annoys you and what behavior doesn’t. I was simply referring to stupid assumptions coming from both camps here while holding quite an aggressive tone which I sincerely shouldn’t be needed if you are only here to discuss. It was thus for me not a mature discussion we had at hand but that is of course a different matter all together.

To clarify, DeepThought has 4 kids in a silly argument he had with dbO where he accused him for being a indoctrinated Christian and does not teach them anything else than for example, the Creation Myth about Adam and Eve. I have also checked his homepage but you see, maybe you didn’t read that far back as I did but he IS a scholar on a matter. Maybe it was you or maybe it was someone else, I cannot remember but anyway, he accused someone for not have “studied” it as much as he had because he was teaching the subject and also refered to the “I would have asked if you had been paying attention?” as in referring to a student if he/she had listened to anything at all. If a remember, he claimed to be teaching on the matter but right now I am frankly too lazy to go back and see if that is the case or not, neither isn’t it a very important matter either but I reacted strongly towards it and I also mentioned it in my initial post so either I completely misread/misunderstood or that must be the case.

However, I understand why he wasn’t rational and the he did a lot of strawmen while on the other hand… it is strange a lot of Christians tend to do this. I checked a thread on the last.fm forums, ended the same way. Poor dbO, he should learn when to leave a discussion early before it is getting totally out of hand

And agreed that Atheism would make people strive towards certain ideologies when it is indeed not the case at all. While faith or lack thereof can be intergrated into one’s ideology it is NOT an ideology alone.