Of course there are Bible verses that condemn lying, but it just goes to show that the Bible is as contradictory as the Quran.

Unfortunately the Qur’an has an extra damning “ace up it’s sleeve” in the sense that newer instructions trump the older (which is why War trounces Peace in it) and also that whatever is mentioned about the Life of Muhammad is to be taken as an example. Apostle Paul is not granted this kind of reverence oroh and it is easy for a moderate Christian to retionalize it in a way that Paul is not the perfect example to follow.

The difference in this case is that other Christians have a leg to stand on and criticize the liars as can we point them how they are not following the teachings of their own religion.

Except that the Bible (at least through Paul’s writing) also promotes duplicity for the advancement of faith:

To the Jews I became like a Jew to win over Jews; to those under the law I became like one under the law– though I myself am not under the law– to win over those under the law. To those outside the law I became like one outside the law– though I am not outside God’s law but within the law of Christ– to win over those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak. I have become all things to all, to save at least some. All this I do for the sake of the gospel, so that I too may have a share in it.
(1 Corinthians 9:20-23 NAB)

Of course there are Bible verses that condemn lying, but it just goes to show that the Bible is as contradictory as the Quran.

RJ, a quick investigation provided me with this

Wow. That’s a fun little wiki article. Haven’t watched the film yet, but will try to soon. I don’t know what kind of “objectives” would require or even permit lies, although I suppose we can speculate. And the section outlining Sunni and Shi’a views a little further down is rather interesting, especially:

it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible…, and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.

Of course NOW the question would be what kind of goal is “obligatory”?? All seems conveniently ambiguous.

I also bet a lot of liberal/moderate Muslims would say that the verse telling Muslims to lie has been stretched or manipulated to say that.

Unfortunately it’s not a matter of bending words to make them say what you want, like in the Great Book of Multiple Choice (i.e. the Bible). It is explicitly mentioned, in the same way that when it instructs Muslims to kill Jews in some very explicit ways, it is not really being…”vague”

That being said, I believe Muslims (and Christians) ought to go one step further than simply denouncing these verses and just cut them out altogether. They serve no purpose except to cause conflicts and repression and violence.