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This is my first article for this website.  Some others here may even disagree with my commentary, but I think my points on the subject are quite valid.  I am probably one of the most militant here in terms of being Anti-Christian.  I view their whole ideology as a threat to my well-being, and the well-being of my fellow man.  With that in mind, I see no fault in following things on the natural course to defend my person.  With that in my worldview I will use strong terms, because strength and wisdom need to overcome lies and ignorance.

With that being said, I was listening to my local Christian radio station when I realized that this religion truly is a threat to the global well being of mankind.  Its whole basis of thought is “do as we say or you will die.”  They may not physically kill you right then and there, but they expect it to happen someday and they take solace in this fact.  Yet, when I use harsh concepts such as these, I am usually berated for it.  I am unfair.  I am intolerant, or I am harsh.  The world needs to wake up.  It needs to see what this really is and I challenge most Christians to figure out what it is they are following and what it is they are actually saying to the world.

I submit the point that if you claim to be a Christian you have to believe that Jesus is the only way to reach salvation.  If you don’t believe that absolutist tenet then you are not a Christian.  End of debate, get over the fact that you’re not Christian right now and join our ranks for you will, just as quickly, be smitten as the rest of us, so its fight or flight for you… decide already!  I make this comment based on a recent debate someone mentioned to me that “not all Christians believe that there’s only one way”, well if they don’t then they’re not Christian.  Jesus said “the only way to the father is through me” (paraphrased).  Furthermore the New Testament echoes the concept that if you don’t follow Jesus then you will be sent to Hell to experience eternal death away from God.  Do you not see this is a religion inherent with fear tactics?  When faced with these two options, most people can’t let go of life, so they bow their head and obey.  Maybe it’s time for us to move on, accept the concept of death and stop hanging on to life as a slave.  Maybe death is the better in that case, after all, is it not freedom?

For most tyrannical rulers this would be enough, to have the populations submit to them and acknowledge them as supreme rule.  This is not enough for Christianity, in all it’s vile ideas; they also tell you that you are living in eternal sin.  You are a failure!  Nothing you ever do will ever be good enough.  You are constantly in need of Jesus.  Spare me your scare tactics, I will relish my “sins” in your eyes and realize that I have not sinned in the real world, only in a fantasy world ruled by an incoherent dictator named Jesus.  It is a phenomenal psychological trick to play upon the uneducated, why do you think Christianity is targeted towards the lowly and the mob.  The mob are the people, they have the numbers.  It’s a genius move in terms of conquering, conquer the people and they will revolt the current rule.  Well, now those of us who know the truth of this religion are the underdogs and we should not seek superiority of all mankind, but the leveling equality of mankind.  This is not a call to communism; it is a call to knowledge and understanding.  There are simply basic truths and concepts the mob should be made aware of and as long as that idiotic book, The Bible, stands in the way, knowledge will constantly suffer.  Ignorance will rule our world and the current corporate monarchy wants it that way.  The blind truly need to be shown the light and wisdom given a chance, lies have ruled us for far too long and I believe as a race we can truly overcome and advance our species.

For all the disgust your god visits upon me, I visit it back upon him and his followers ten fold.  I see no reason why we should seek an accord anymore.  This is a global call to action to shun this unwarranted religion.  I herald a day when their revelations will be put into action, so they can see their “god”, their minor deity will never come.  Only wisdom is power, and you, my reader, are the only one who can control that.  God will give you nothing if you don’t take it for yourself.  At which point you will truly question what has “god” really done for you, nothing that you haven’t managed on your own.  All that will happen are you will wake up to the ignorant that surround you because they simply do not know.  Soon it will be time for us to stop watching and for us to start doing.  Already Christians gather in great masses, it would be wise for us to do the same one day and show the world the dissent that has been brewing against its religions.

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There is a kind of argument theists will use constantly in a debate. It appears in various forms, but the basics are all the same. In my many debates with christians I have recently had to endure another barrage of this argument, so I thought it was about time I adressed this in a more formal way - this article.

So what is the argument I’m talking about? I’ve come to calling it the “true christian” argument, but I’m sure it’s valid for any kind of theist. You’ve probably encountered it before. The christian or theist will say: “But that’s not what the Bible says” or “Those people aren’t real christians” or “You didn’t get the message from that verse/chapter/book”. It can all be placed in the same umbrella: The accusation that your or somebody else’s interpretation of some verse, or the bible integrally, is incorrect. I’ve had christians tell me that the bible is not open to interpretation, but I have also had christians tell me I mustn’t take it too literally. Both think their view of the bible and its message is correct and they will use that assumption as the “true christian” argument in a debate.

The former argues that the Bible is the actual and literal word of god, not to be interpreted subjectively. This creates some clashes not only with our current understanding of the world and its workings, but also internally the bible contradicts itself [1. Contradictions in the bible (Skeptic's Annotated Bible)]. The latter usually pops up when you swing a random “blood-’n-guts” type verse in their face and ask them to explain  where the loving god went and they tell you it is not to be taken literally. This creates a diversity of problems ranging from the questions which parts of the bible are to be taken literally and which not, to the possibility of different interpretation and the loss of original meaning (if there was one).

The fact is that the last issue I put forward is what has been happening for thousands of years. The bible is a collection of books written over a span of many years - not a technical specification for a device called “life”. Upon reading the bible it is unavoidable that you interpret it in a certain way while you are trying to uncover what it means. It doesn’t matter whether you read it as an important literary work or as the word of your god - in both cases you are going to make up your mind about the bible’s content. A well-known part of the bible is the Exodus [2. The Exodus (BibleGateway.com)]: Moses, the ten plagues, the Pharaoh and the enslaved Jewish people. From it one could conclude that God takes care of his people, which would put him in a good light. One could also conclude that God, while all-powerful, still deemed it necessary to kill many innocent first-borns in order to grant freedom to a people. Both conclusions can be defended  (and have been).

The important thing about these various, possibly opposing interpretations is that they can all be defended using the bible. I have often expressed my view of god as an oppressive, fascistic dictator who I would oppose if he existed. I didn’t make that view up; it is my interpretation of god as I have read about him in the bible. But not only non-christians like me have read (parts of) the bible and made up their minds about its contents; people who call themselves christians have too. Siding the plethora of denominations, there are also the non-denominational christians who have their own brand of Christianity. Denominations can disagree on pretty important issues too. During history, schisms and off-branching of christian denominations has occurred in plentitude [3. Historical schism Schemes of Christian theology (Wikipedia).]. Simply consider the fact that there are denominations in christianity that are a response to another denomination, as is the case with Protestantism (versus Roman Catholicism). Also consider the “shunning” of a christian denomination by many other christian denominations, such as is the case with Mormonism (for their “blasphemous” Book of Mormon) and the Westboro Baptist Church (known for their “Thank god for dead soldiers” funeral protests and “God Hates Fags” website [4. GodHatesFags]) - even though their views, mine and the pope’s can be defended succesfully using the same book.

Interpretations of the bible has led to people who do not identify themselves as christians, to denominational christians and to non-denominational christians. The last two often clash between them and also internally to what the true christian message is - if there even is one. Deriving a message from the bible is taken very seriously for no apparent reason other than faith that there should be a message in it.  The so-called professional experts (theologians) can’t seem to agree - even though there exists the general consensus that they are trying to uncover the same message. Using the argument “<You/They> clearly didn’t understand <that part of the bible>” in the light of the previous conclusion is therefore pompous and far from a legitimate argument, and I would like to invite theists to come up with something better.