Christian non-ethics
Posted by: Waldheri in Philosophy, tags: Christianity, ethics, euthyphro, Islam, judaism, moralityThe most important reason for my atheism is the absence of both evidence and arguments (both sound and valid) for the existence of God. This can be extended for for my rejection of essential passages in the Bible which endeavour to establish the incidence of certain events in world history. These span the creation myth from the book of Genesis to Jesus’ miracles in the Gospel books. But parallel to the empirical criticism of such truth claims, there are also reasons why I reject Christianity as a collection of philosophical doctrines. Never minding whether the truth claims in the Bible actually stack up, I want to criticize some of the more abstract ideas tied into this religion. In this short essay, I want to criticise Christian ethics – or rather lack thereof, which I will explain in full.
It is a common argument by theists that without a god, there are no morals and everything is permitted. In the absence of a god who sets a standard of wrong and right, man is argued to be clueless as to whether, for example, murder is a good thing or not. I will not go very deep into alternative approaches of morality, but simply analyse the abovementioned position and draw conclusions from it. But first I should establish the specific ethical theory that is immanent in Christianity (but which is also true for Islam and Judaism). In these montheistic religions, the god is the giver of the moral law. Because God is said to be benevolent, all-knowing and all-wise, he is the giver of moral laws which are absolute and eternal. This idea of ethics is commonly referred to as Divine Command Theory (DCT). I will focus on two main problems with DCT.
The first one is in the form of a dilemma, originally found in Plato’s dialogues, posed by a philosopher called Euthyphro. It can be adapted to fit a core problem of DCT as found in philosophical theism in the following way:
“Is what is moral commanded by God because it is moral, or is it moral because it is commanded by God?”
This is Euthypro’s Dilemma[I] . The question is fundamental and must be answered, but both answers pose serious problems for DCT. I will first discuss the second part of the dilemma.
If what is moral is so because it is commanded by God, then that means that anything that God commands is moral by definition. Whatever God commands to be moral is arbitrary, thereby reducing God’s benevolence to meaning absolutely nothing. Gottfried Leibniz wrote[II] “So in saying that things are not good by any rule of goodness, but sheerly by the will of God, it seems to me that one destroys, without realizing it, all the love of God and all his glory. For why praise him for what he has done if he would be equally praiseworthy in doing exactly the contrary?” And that sums the problem up quite nicely – if we choose to answer the problem by saying whatever God commands is moral, we forfeit any rational consideration of morals and allow ourselves to be subjected to the whim of God. If God were to command that the rape of altar boys is an moral imperative, those who accept DCT would have to accept that in that scenario that action is indeed moral, and have to try their very best to make sure as many altar boys are raped as possible. The consequences of accepting DCT are clear: it replaces any moral predispositions one has by the perceived commands of God, without allowing the intellect to evaluate them. I reject this as I perceive it as nothing less than moral self-enslavement.
So what if we were to accept that what is good is commanded by God because it is good? Then we are left with the question: well what is God good for? In this possible response to the dilemma God is the messenger who tells us what is good in itself. However: morality itself is independent of God, as without God the moral laws that God otherwise would communicate to us in his commands would still exist and be in effect. However, there is still a problem with this approach, and the problem is epistemic in nature. The same problem arises for the other approach, but it is of less importance there because of other objections. Here, however, we must deal with how we can know what God commands. A theist might point to scriptures and claim we can find what God commands in there, but in practice this is a futile attempt. Thousands of years of interpreting scriptures has lead to various religious denominations that have decided upon mutually exclusive moral laws based on what is according to them the correct canonical collection. Furthermore, there are moral problems in the modern world for which no guidance can be found in these scriptures, revealing a moral vacuity.
What is interesting about Christianity is that ethics based on DCT is mostly prevalent in the Old Testament. The New Testament, however, seems to also place importance on a different meta-ethical system which focuses on having certain virtues rather than following certain rules – virtue ethics. This is explicitly expressed in Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount[III]. Some virtues that are blessed by Jesus are “poorness in spirit” (“humility”), “meekness”, “righteousness”, “mercy” and “purity of heart”. Jesus also blesses those who are persecuted, those who are peacemakers and those who mourn. In other passages, Jesus emphasizes on virtues like “love” and “service”. In virtue ethics the emphasis is on the person, who is good if he/she embodies these virtues, rather than the actions of the person. This could partly explain the reluctance of Christian denominations to require abiding the full Mosaic Law, and why these denominations place emphasis on “The Ten Commandments”, rather than all 613 of them[IV]. Virtue ethics has its own problems, like internal consistency (should one embody benevolence and tell a white lie, or embody truthfulness and tell a hurtful truth?) and a lack of basis and therefore external inconsistency, a foremost example of which is voiced by Friedrich Nietzsche. Nietzsche rejected various Christian values (virtues can be understood as are moral values) such as pity and faith, calling these decadent values as they are antagonistic to Nietzsche’s Will to Power and the higher sort of man[V]. There is no basis for deciding which set of values/virtues are better than another.
Any system of ethics which does not rely on rational analysis of its precepts, but rather on obedience and authority, is inherently prone to abuse, and should therefore be rejected. We are all moral people, and I am saddened when I see people defend the tyrannical actions of the Old Testament god. I not only believe that I am more moral than that god, I also believe that people who are defending this god are more moral than it. It is exactly as Steven Weinberg said[VI]:
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion. “
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April 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am - Edit
I noticed that you made some funky grammar and spelling errors which is unusual for being you. Tired, perhaps?
I would also be interested to have you expand this statement: "Furthermore, there are moral problems in the modern world for which no guidance can be found in these scriptures, revealing a moral vacuity." Exactly what moral problems do we talk about? Abortion?
April 25th, 2010 at 12:18 am - Edit
If in fact the whole world could be told about God and how to get to Heaven in one book…do you think the whole world would believe it…or would some doubt? If Christians claim that God is good and you do evil then how would that make you in the eyes of God? People believe in darkness because they act in darkness and people believe in the light because they act in the light. No one is perfect. We believe in a man who lived the perfect life and thus try to be like Him. This world is perishing because of the evil within it. Who wants to live in a world with evil people. Lost people are more inclined to do evil than the Christians you hate. A Christian is someone who has accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour and aspires to be like Him. Not everyone who claims to be one is one. Not everyone who claims to know God does.
April 25th, 2010 at 12:19 am - Edit
Seek truth for yourself and don';t be misled by people. Jesus is the truth and if you don't believe in Him…ask him to help you and you will be helped. We all want peace of mind and that only comes from the truth. What peace is there in disbelief. The most evil one is the same one who wants you to not believe. Peace comes from faith. I've had this peace for awhile now and no created thing can take it from me. The world is the deception but those who have seen through the deception have conquered the world and found God.
May 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm - Edit
Some people also would like to live their lives in peace, and not have to put up with Christians trying to brainwash them. See that is the only way you people can get new followers to join your fold, and steal the coin from their wallets. Christians tell people that they are sinners; and that any of their works are dirty rags in the eyes of god, unless they accept Jesus into their hearts.
God should be able to see the achievements of each individual without the word of Jesus; if he has to rely on Jesus to tell him who gets to enter heaven, then what sort of incompetent fuck do we have running the fucking universe?
Maybe if you Christians actually came up with a Bible that had some form of logic to it; you might get more followers. You told me to seek truth Haha? I will seek truth; that is some good advice, however truth does not come from the bible mate.
And don't try to tell me that Jesus is God, because Jesus was just a man, he died like a man, he bled like a man, and he fucked up like a man.
I'm so sick of you Christian fucks trying to brainwash me hey; maybe you should tell the rest of the sheep to back the fuck up.
May 15th, 2010 at 3:55 pm - Edit
And no I don't believe that all Christians are good people -Haha- I think that most of them are manipulative brainwashing pieces of shit but that's just me. You can think what you want, but you have to admit that is all you people do. You prey on the weak of mind, you pressure and manipulate them into your religion. If there was truly a Satan I would call it Christianity.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:53 pm - Edit
It is a sad thing that the credulous simply came here to preach without either the ability or willingness to process what you've written. There is simply no intellectual curiosity with these people. It's more than sad, it's pathetic and frightening.
June 25th, 2010 at 3:56 am - Edit
This is what the "credulous" argue:
There is no "proof" of "anything", "just" interpretation, which is a choice. Yes, a choice. YOU,the narcissist atheist judges ; or? yes that simple: GOD judges. You decide.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:53 am - Edit
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July 4th, 2010 at 6:56 am - Edit
I find the last statement in this article incredibly interesting.
"Any system of ethics which does not rely on rational analysis of its precepts, but rather on obedience and authority, is inherently prone to abuse, and should therefore be rejected. We are all moral people, and I am saddened when I see people defend the tyrannical actions of the Old Testament god. I not only believe that I am more moral than that god, I also believe that people who are defending this god are more moral than it."
On whose rational analysis are we to depend, exactly? Rationality has limits, because rationality depends on knowledge, and man's capacity for knowledge is finite.
How have you determined that "we are all moral people?" How do you even know that you yourself are moral? If morality derives from a human source, then I am as capable of determining it as you are. Thus, what may be right to you may be completely wrong to me, and vice versa. I could declare murder to be morally acceptable this instant.
If you say that society determines morality, then you run into several issues. First, which society? Many societies believe different and completely contradictory things. Second, this is a system of ethics based on a type of authority, which you seem to think is a bad idea.
Concepts such as good or evil, right or wrong, become fluid and meaningless in the context of either societally or personally based systems of ethics. As such, it becomes meaningless for one to call himself moral if he believes that either of these systems is valid.
I believe that God is good, and that God is Good, if you understand my meaning. He is the personification of good. Therefore, what he commands is good. To me, this seems a little more philosophically solid. Feel free to correct me.