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Do you remember Ray Comfort? Ray Comfort is a man who likes to make claims about atheists, especially if it helps his own agenda. He is one of those Christians who try to defend their beliefs by attacking what they perceives as its opposite. To a person like Ray Comfort, the only logical step following “not atheist” is “Christian”. And that is what he does – or tries to do. He has written publications with impressive (and sometimes ironic) sounding titles such as “Scientific Facts in the Bible: 100 Reasons to Believe the Bible is Supernatural in Origin“, “How to know God Exists: Scientific Proof of God” and “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups“.

But wait a minute. Ray Comfort… Wasn’t he the one who proposed a banana as the object of an atheist’s worst nightmare? Yes he is. In a televised ABC Nightline Faceoff debate with Kirk Cameran versus two members of the Rational Response Squad on the existence of God, he claimed to be able to prove the existence of God without resorting to faith. You can watch it here. In the debate, Comfort’s buddy Cameron attacked evolution by claiming evolutionary biologists are looking for things like the (now infamous) Crocoduck and the Bullfrog. Cameron and Comfort further demonstrate their ignorance regarding evolution by the most basic error of using it in a cosmological evaluation of the world, while evolution only deals with explaining the diversity of life. It is true, ignorance is a common basis for arguments that Cameron and Comfort put forward.

And so is Comfort’s new toy, Pull the plug on Atheism. This time Comfort proposes ‘atheism’s biggest secret’:

мебели пловдив

An atheist is someone who believes that nothing made everything. He will of course deny that because it’s an intellectual embarrassment, but if I say that I don’t believe that a builder built my house, then I am left with the insanity of believing that nothing built it. It just happened.

First of all, Comfort got the definition of atheism wrong. An atheist is somebody who does not believe in any gods. Even if this first sentence wasn’t meant as a definition, it is factually wrong because Comfort makes the mistake of all atheists share more than just a disbelief in gods. In his assessment I think he is referring to the big bang, but his wording is off. Nothing “made” everything. The big bang model of the the universe started to expand from a hot and dense state 13.7 billion years ago. It makes no assessment on what was there before the ‘primeval atom’ or how it came there. This is a question for the future generation of scientists, and to put the God lid on this vat full of exciting questions is to revert to the god of the gaps, which does nothing but kill off our inquiry into the nature of reality. Third of all Ray Comfort keeps going back on his old arguments of supposed design in the universe. These have been addressed by a plethora of philosophers and scientists, but I fear somebody so much blinded by his own convictions will not yield to reason.

I’ve said that ignorance is a common basis for arguments by Comfort and his ilk, and I don’t mean that as an accusation. We are all born ignorant, but we can learn. I do accuse these people of not wanting to learn. They will ignore everything if it means defending their earlier conceived notions of reality. It is of course a freedom they have, but to bother other people who are trying to unlock the secrets of the universe is wholly detestable. And even though they might be happy living their lives in hiding from reasoned and empirically substantiative answers, I fear that if they would have their way in the politics of education, the God lid would be placed on all intellectual pursuit. “God” will be graffitid over the equations derived by Newton, Einstein, Kepler and consorts. Books on science would be replaced by a leaflet featuring Michelangelo’s The Creation of the Sun and Moon. Science labs would be emptied of microscopes and Bunsen burners, to be replaced by Bibles. This will be the result if we surrender to the will of men who live their lives according to one old book. It is why it important we don’t let these people kick the scientific legs from under modern society and let them spread nonsense unopposed

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23 Responses to “Ray Comfort’s at it again – The vendetta against intellectual pursuit”
  1. jorrizza says:

    I'm sorry, but I can't waste my precious time killing the defeated. However amusing, I must decline this open invitation to this intellectual showdown. This man adds nothing and takes even less away. One might think he's being rewarded for his delusions by a both well humored as well situated intellectual. Cannon fodder for the educated masses, if you will. May his name be forgotten after he has ceased to be. Don't worry, it probably will.

  2. db0 says:

    I agree with jorizza, Ray Comfort is like the Ultimate Christian Troll. He does not care about being proven wrong or right, only with getting attention and publicity and it seems the atheosphere is more than willing to indulge him, which only allows him to point to that to his followers as evidence that he is right or whatever, and sell book of course.

    Don't feed the trolls people, that is not the way to make them die. Just wholly ignore him. He is definitely not worth refuting. He will not learn, he will not even listen and if he will, it will only be to quote mine. Hell, I wouldn't be too surprised if he's already a closet atheist playing the theist in order to make money from his books. Hey, It could happen…

  3. Waldheri says:

    Maybe you two are right and I shouldn't waste energy on halfwits like Ray Comfort, but it always itches when I hear ridiculous stuff like that. I can't help myself.

  4. db0 says:

    That's why he does it boy-o. That's what he want ;)

  5. db0 says:

    That's why he does it boy-o. That's what he wants ;)

  6. Anath says:

    It bothers me too, mostly because we can expect the next wave of Christian "debaters" to start shamelessly quoting the source and further spread its lies and fallacies.

  7. LeaT says:

    I have a vague memory of his banana example; I don't remember what the point was but I do remember I found it incredibly amusing and pointless. However how annoying he might be, hopefully others will also understand that he doesn't care about what he says as long he gets to say it and therefore people will stop to taking him seriously. Hopefully.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I don't get it, is there supposed to be a point all the mindless preaching to the choir on this website? I've looked around here a bit and it just seems like a giant circle-jerk for you nutheads.

  9. db0 says:

    Obviously the point of this CIrcle jerk is to bukkake on people like you

  10. Anonymous says:

    And who are people like me, exactly?

  11. db0 says:

    Anonymous cowards

  12. Waldheri says:

    My intention as a writer is not to convince anyone. It is to share my thoughts and opinions. If you don't like it, you are free to fuck off – why even bother commenting?

  13. Anonymous says:

    Why even bother writing? Everybody here already seems to agree 100% with what you have to say. But if this is what gets you off, don't mind me.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Me, a coward? You sit in your little corner saying how Christianity is so evil, yet you do nothing about it. If you feel so strongly about it, take some ACTION. Not just vent about how much the world sucks with your buttbuddies here.

  15. db0 says:

    What kind of action would we take that would have any meaningful results? I think words & ideas have quite a lot of effect to counter other words & ideas, like the ones of the Christianity and Islam.

    And yes. You're an anonymous coward. At least we're not afraid to stand behind our words.

  16. Anonymous says:

    How should I know what you should do? I don't subscribe to your closed-minded agenda. And words and ideas may have an effect, but I don't think anyone actually cares what you people have to say.

    And you know who I am, I am Anonymous. You know just as much about me as I know about you, so I don't understand what your point is about that.

  17. db0 says:

    If you don't have anything constructive to propose then shut up. Don't just say random bullshit.

    As for people not caring at all for what we have to say, well, your continued presence here is proof of the opposite.

    so I don't understand what your point is about that.

    No point, just calling you a coward for staying anonymous and generally making fun of your frothing-at-the-mouth comments

  18. Anath says:

    Proof that we "do nothing about it", please. Actual examples from our daily lives, a repeatable procedure, diagrams, and photographic evidence. Peer reviewed. When you can provide this, we will take you seriously.

  19. jorrizza says:

    Okay, you're a troll. This is the last food you'll get from me. I won't feed you any longer. I hope you'll like your new diet. Now piss off.

  20. TheEdgecrusher says:

    if you don't care about the ideas listed here, please drag you anonymous (and yes, cowardly) ass out of here.

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  23. headhwallring says:

    “An atheist is somebody who does not believe in any gods. Even if this first sentence wasn’t meant as a definition, it is factually wrong because Comfort makes the mistake of all atheists share more than just a disbelief in gods. In his assessment I think he is referring to the big bang, but his wording is off. Nothing “made” everything. The big bang model of the the universe started to expand from a hot and dense state 13.7 billion years ago. It makes no assessment on what was there before the ‘primeval atom’ or how it came there. This is a question for the future generation of scientists, and to put the God lid on this vat full of exciting questions is to revert to the god of the gaps, which does nothing but kill off our inquiry into the nature of reality. Third of all Ray Comfort keeps going back on his old arguments of supposed design in the universe. These have been addressed by a plethora of philosophers and scientists, but I fear somebody so much blinded by his own convictions will not yield to reason.”
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