Comments on: We get email #2 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2 Behold, Bastard son! We are the evil ones. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:46:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: LeaT http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6439 LeaT Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:55:19 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6439 Of course, and I am aware of that. And I am aware that neither of you are proclaimed humanists :) Of course, and I am aware of that. And I am aware that neither of you are proclaimed humanists :)

]]> By: Michael Koenig http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6429 Michael Koenig Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:32:32 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6429 Testing. Testing.

]]> By: Waldheri http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6410 Waldheri Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:26:09 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6410 True, but you're the one introducing humanism. I never mentioned that in my text, nor did Anath. Secularism does not entail humanism, although humanism often entails secularism. Therefore, I still stand by what I say. True, but you're the one introducing humanism. I never mentioned that in my text, nor did Anath. Secularism does not entail humanism, although humanism often entails secularism. Therefore, I still stand by what I say.

]]> By: LeaT http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6375 LeaT Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:37:59 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6375 I have to say though, that when you start looking at the humanist movement a bit at least, it seems just a tad like a religious institution, minus the faith. The creation of dogma is there, for example. You have an institution, and while there is not yet something akin to scripture, as it seems the humanist movement is mostly carried out by verbal means, many a humanist do share the same set of ethics. I suppose this is the part that I find just a bit scary. And it seems that many humanists find it their cause to push their non-theistic beliefs upon theists, something I believe none of us here would agree with (and this is one of the reasons why I would never call myself or consider myself a humanist). I wholly support the idea of secularism; what you believe in should have nothing to do with how to control a country, and it becomes even more evident if you got many different groups who believe in different religions in the same country. Which group should have the surpreme right then, in such a case, to say that OUR ethics are better in standard than the other groups' ethics? That is not fair to anyone, and should be one of the primary arguments why religion and state should be seperated as well. I have to say though, that when you start looking at the humanist movement a bit at least, it seems just a tad like a religious institution, minus the faith. The creation of dogma is there, for example. You have an institution, and while there is not yet something akin to scripture, as it seems the humanist movement is mostly carried out by verbal means, many a humanist do share the same set of ethics. I suppose this is the part that I find just a bit scary. And it seems that many humanists find it their cause to push their non-theistic beliefs upon theists, something I believe none of us here would agree with (and this is one of the reasons why I would never call myself or consider myself a humanist). I wholly support the idea of secularism; what you believe in should have nothing to do with how to control a country, and it becomes even more evident if you got many different groups who believe in different religions in the same country. Which group should have the surpreme right then, in such a case, to say that OUR ethics are better in standard than the other groups' ethics? That is not fair to anyone, and should be one of the primary arguments why religion and state should be seperated as well.

]]> By: Waldheri http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6350 Waldheri Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:19:00 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6350 I have to object to secularism being denoted as a religion. On the other hand, I do agree that freedom of religion should also include the freedom of non-religion. I have to object to secularism being denoted as a religion. On the other hand, I do agree that freedom of religion should also include the freedom of non-religion.

]]> By: LeaT http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6349 LeaT Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:47:59 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6349 Well, not much else to say than Waldheri already said :) Well, not much else to say than Waldheri already said :)

]]> By: Anath http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6345 Anath Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:51:23 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6345 You beat me to it! : D I will edit in my replies later today. You beat me to it! : D

I will edit in my replies later today.

]]> By: db0 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/waldheri/we-get-email-2/comment-page-1#comment-6331 db0 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:25:47 +0000 http://www.antichristian-phenomenon.com/?p=488#comment-6331 Cheers for respondign Waldheri. I saw the email but couldn't be bollocksed :) Cheers for respondign Waldheri. I saw the email but couldn't be bollocksed :)

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